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Thats a high standard bro... youd be lucky!!... I can say my basic Sgt was an exerienced grunt and I had some experienced combat Vets as Cpls on the basic training course... they did a smashing job of training us... the tough training really paid off... that said I went to my first operational posting to fine my first operational Platoon to be an arrogant ass... can vary on operational units with a core competancy rating for some NCOs only....Originally Posted by papachop
"Neither a wise nor a brave man lies down on the tracks of history to wait for the train of the future to run over him."
Gen Dwight D. Eisenhower
"Illac est haud effrigo aux veneratio"
Me!
Oh, I meant my first Platoon Sgt as a cherry 2nd Lt - I'm not too worried about the Drill Sgts at basic.
2LT Papa Chop
25A - Signal Officer
Right, I understand now Papa.... You will get a feel for the Sgt pritty quick and he will most likely be an experienced "Doc" type Sgt... Good command decisions on new officers put them with experienced NCOs to get the officer upto speed practically ASAP... only with that support will the officer training really kick in and the officer become 'fully functional'.....
"Neither a wise nor a brave man lies down on the tracks of history to wait for the train of the future to run over him."
Gen Dwight D. Eisenhower
"Illac est haud effrigo aux veneratio"
Me!
Well, thanks for the compliment - though you don't really know anything about me other than I know the weapons and some of the science behind them. Leading people is a whole different skill set. I'm sure you'll do fine, papa!
68W4P, 31B4P, 0341, 0844
24 years and counting...
"Even if you know that a certain illustration in an art book is from the Kama Sutra, don't point that out to your art history class. They will think you're a pervert." - seen at learnfrommyfail.com
Negative - I was referring to your attitude, demeanor, and dedication to the job. Just from what I've observed about you in the past month tells me you'd be a good man to serve with.
Last edited by papachop; 06-30-2010 at 09:34 PM.
2LT Papa Chop
25A - Signal Officer
x 2 papachop. I feel the same way. Nice post.
The base is so large it has its own 'neighborhoods'. These include: 'KBR-land' (a Halliburton subsidiary company); 'CJSOTF' which is home to ' the Combined Joint Special Operations Task Force' and is surrounded by especially high walls that is, according to The Washington Post, so secretive that even the base Army public affairs chief has never been inside.
I can usually tell a person's leadership abilities while never having met him in person. You're one of them, Doc. Of course after all these years I think I know you pretty good. The willingness to counsel people & set them straight is one of the elements of good leadership & you certainly qualify on that point by itself.
Last edited by MSG Glenn; 07-04-2010 at 10:41 AM.
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I don't want to research all this stuff, but correct me if I'm wrong: He is talking about the the DIAMETER of the round, isn't he? Not grain. Grain means powder weight if I am correct. .556, .45, cal. 50 etc. means the the SIZE not grain, right?
Well, the original poster asked -
So while he used the term 'grain', what he was asking about was the standard US caliber - which was why I included so much information in my post.
The number used to describe the size of a cartridge, or caliber, is the approximate measurement of the bore, or inside diameter, of the barrel - i.e. .45 ACP = a bore of .45 inches, and was designed for the Automatic Colt Pistol. When 2 numbers are used, the second number is the length of the case - especially when there are multiple cartridges that use the same bore diameter, i.e. 7.62x51mm (a US military cartridge) and 7.62x39mm (a Russian military cartridge).
Grain is a measurement of weight, and is used to measure BOTH the weight of the bullet and the weight of the powder charge. It's far more common to see the bullet weight listed, however, unless the publication specifically addresses reloading.
Hope that helps!
68W4P, 31B4P, 0341, 0844
24 years and counting...
"Even if you know that a certain illustration in an art book is from the Kama Sutra, don't point that out to your art history class. They will think you're a pervert." - seen at learnfrommyfail.com
Just an aside (not to take this too far on a tangent): Bullets are measured by grain as well. E.g. there are 150 grain 30-06 bullets as well as 180 grain, 165, 200 and 220 out of the factory.... 9x19 parabellum is found with 115 grain, 124 grain, and 147 grain bullets in most factory loads... there are multiple bullet weights for nearly every common rifle and pistol round in production.
(before this gets too confusing - both bullet and powder are measured in grains)
That said, the answer to your question... .45 caliber does mean the bullet diameter.
Hope that helps.
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