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    whats the standard us grain we use.... is it 7.65 or 5.56 nato round

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    could you phrase that better? I'm kinda confused...but if you're talking about bullet weights in grains, then the 5.56x45, depending on the application, can be either 62 or 63 grain(4.0 or 4.1 gram) for military purposes. By 7.65, I assume you mean 7.62x51, because the 7.65 is not in use by the canadian or US military as far as I know. .32 ACP could technically be called a 7.65, and there's a 7.65 longue, but that's pretty much it. the 7.62x51 uses a bullet that weighs 146.6 grains, or 9.5 grams.

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    5.56 is standard in most of the US rifles. 7.62 are used in a few LMGs.
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    Depends ZAK is correct on the grain if thats what you were asking about. The dimentions vary from 7.62 to 5.56 the SCAR-H is 7.62 while most service rifles are 5.56

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    The term 'grain' is a measurement of weight, commonly used to weigh bullets, and is equal to exactly 64.79891 milligrams. Usage comes from the historical practice of weighing bullets on a balance scale using grains of barley as counterweights/units of measurement. Common US weapons and their calibers are listed below -

    M16A2, M16A4, M4 MWS, M4A1 rifles and the M249 Automatic Rifle and Light Machine Gun all fire the 5.56 x 45mm cartridge.
    Cartridges in this caliber include M855 ball firing a 62 grain FMJ (full metal jacketed) bullet s 3,035 FPS, M856 Tracer, M995 AP (armor piercing), MK318 MOD 0 62-grain Open-Tipped Match/Hollow-Point Boat-Tail, Mk 262 Mod 0/1 77-grain Open-Tipped Match/Hollow-Point Boat-Tail cartridge - and others.

    M60, M219 and M240 Machine guns, and the M14 and M21 sniper rifles fire the 7.62 x 51mm cartridge
    Cartridges in this caliber include M80 Ball (firing a 392 grain FMJ bullet at 2,750 FPS), M62 Tracer, M61 Armor Piercing, M118 Special Ball (sniper), M276 Dim Tracer - and others.

    That's probably way more than you wanted to know - but there you are.
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    Yup everything you needed to know haha, I actually learned a thing or two just now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grunt Medic TXARNG View Post
    The term 'grain' is a measurement of weight, commonly used to weigh bullets, and is equal to exactly 64.79891 milligrams. Usage comes from the historical practice of weighing bullets on a balance scale using grains of barley as counterweights/units of measurement. Common US weapons and their calibers are listed below -

    M16A2, M16A4, M4 MWS, M4A1 rifles and the M249 Automatic Rifle and Light Machine Gun all fire the 5.56 x 45mm cartridge.
    Cartridges in this caliber include M855 ball firing a 62 grain FMJ (full metal jacketed) bullet s 3,035 FPS, M856 Tracer, M995 AP (armor piercing), MK318 MOD 0 62-grain Open-Tipped Match/Hollow-Point Boat-Tail, Mk 262 Mod 0/1 77-grain Open-Tipped Match/Hollow-Point Boat-Tail cartridge - and others.

    M60, M219 and M240 Machine guns, and the M14 and M21 sniper rifles fire the 7.62 x 51mm cartridge
    Cartridges in this caliber include M80 Ball (firing a 392 grain FMJ bullet at 2,750 FPS), M62 Tracer, M61 Armor Piercing, M118 Special Ball (sniper), M276 Dim Tracer - and others.

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    Exo - every NCO in a combat unit should be familiar with the concepts above. I had to look up some of the specifics and the more unusual loadings, but there you are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grunt Medic TXARNG View Post
    Exo - every NCO in a combat unit should be familiar with the concepts above. I had to look up some of the specifics and the more unusual loadings, but there you are.
    Agreed, but unfortunately the ballastic knowledge wasnt there in my day... only a small portion of NCOs had the interest to find out themselves... and even smaller portion of PTEs...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grunt Medic TXARNG View Post
    Exo - every NCO in a combat unit should be familiar with the concepts above. I had to look up some of the specifics and the more unusual loadings, but there you are.
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