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    So i just got a phone call from my recruiter becuase i failed my drug test. I was just as shocked as he was. I dont smoke pot. I was raised Mormon and im against drug use and drinking. I am extremely pissed and upset becuase i know this must have came from 2nd hand smoke. I am in college where it seems like everyone smokes and this includes my roomate and my friends. My friends and roomate know im Mormon and have always respected that and dont offer me drugs but sometimes they have smoked around me, usually when there drunk and im dding. I did dd a short while before going to meps and pot was being smoked which is where im assuming this came from. I passed mulitple drug test before going to meps including the day before going but appaerntly meps does more exstensive testing. I had my contract and ship date all done at meps too. My recruiter said im going to have to talk to the commandor now. Am i going to loose everything because people i hang out with smoke???? I didnt tell my recruiter or meps that ive been around it becuase i read this may disqualify me from joining and i didnt think that was fair since i cant control what people do around me. any insight to this would be great. And please i dont want to hear "you shouldnt have been around those people then" because smoking pot does not make you a bad person to me any more than drinking Alch or tea or coffe to me (Mormons dont pertake of any of this) so about 99% of people could be "bad" to me but i am not perfect and do not judge.
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    There is no way you could test positive for contact exposure to marijuana, sorry. The amount detectable in urine on military DATs can tell the difference.
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    I have read/heard different. Why would they ask you if you have been around it if thats not the case? If im in a car with someone lighting up and you can smell smoke than that is def a form of thc getting in your system. Never heard of contact hi? And the test is apperntly more sensitive if i can pass the recruiters drug test and than fail the next day.
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    I said it once and I'll say it again. The BS flag is waving high and loud in your direction. The amount of THC in your system from second hand smoke would be next to zero. Sorry your Golden Seal Root didn't work, oh wait, no I'm not.
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    Listen kid, I'm a year out from being a licensed pharmacist, I think I know how this stuff works. If you don't believe me:

    Can a donor test positive through passive inhalation because he was in the same room with someone smoking marijuana?
    This is a question that has had a long history. It has been shown that it is possible to have minute detectable levels of THC from passive inhalation, although with the standard DOT/SAMHSA screening cutoff (50 ng/ml) this is not possible. The controversy came from studies that showed that it is possible to produce a positive urine test when an initial cutoff of 20 ng/ml is used. There are numerous scientific articles that validate this point; however, exposure conditions were so unrealistic that they were characterized as nearly intolerable certainly not passive but active participation. Since all certified labs must use the 50 ng/ml for federally covered workers, a positive due to second hand smoke is not possible.
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    When someone inhales marijuana smoke they're getting 99.9999999% of the THC. If you failed and you truly believe it's a false positive then ask if you can take another test immediately. I don't see how/why the would let you but it's worth a shot.
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    Nothing you can do. I dont know why he is having you talk to the Commander, if their Battalion is as efficient as mine was at this, you are already out of the system, no more contract for you. I had this happen to a kid i enlisted right before i left, we were notified that morning and that afternoon he was kicked out of the future soldier program.

    Unfortunately for you, there is no waiver, no second test, no anything. Until these waivers are open again (have been closed for teo years now) you will NOT beable to process with the Army at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cjcruise View Post
    I have read/heard different. Why would they ask you if you have been around it if thats not the case? If im in a car with someone lighting up and you can smell smoke than that is def a form of thc getting in your system. Never heard of contact hi? And the test is apperntly more sensitive if i can pass the recruiters drug test and than fail the next day.
    Hahaha no you cannot get high from second hand smoke to thepoint you pop positive and i never heardof it b/c...waitfor it,i dont hang out with such people...and the MEPS test is more sensitive, the recruiters testis like one you would buy at thestore...
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    Quote Originally Posted by KTK1029 View Post
    When someone inhales marijuana smoke they're getting 99.9999999% of the THC. If you failed and you truly believe it's a false positive then ask if you can take another test immediately. I don't see how/why the would let you but it's worth a shot.
    We wont do it, he is DONE...some one bring out thr fork...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MPclk2006 View Post
    We wont do it, he is DONE...some one bring out thr fork...
    That's what I assumed. I just tried to put a positive spin on this horrible trail of lies.
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